tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post7549357181604693869..comments2023-10-30T19:03:59.225+01:00Comments on David Seaton's News Links: Leaving the people behindDavid Seaton's Newslinkshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00269813419598042699noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-34332801176705801552008-09-12T14:25:00.000+02:002008-09-12T14:25:00.000+02:00You will have to go a long way to convince me that...You will have to go a long way to convince me that the Katrina disaster would have happened under a Democratic government.. The point is not that republicans respect working class and dems do not. The point is that middle and upper class people look down on the working class.. and most in power are from these groups. Ditto for the so called US media.<BR/><BR/>I think this blog is repeating the media talking point about the dems Thank you Krugman for being the light in the dark once againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-76420414729035977862008-09-12T05:44:00.000+02:002008-09-12T05:44:00.000+02:00As a white woman and a life-long left wing feminis...As a white woman and a life-long left wing feminist, I am already sick and tired of hearing about how white women love Palin. White RIGHT WING women love Palin. What an irony that our greatest gains in the last decades will be reversed by a woman, when McCain dies in office and Palin becomes president. When I watched her acceptance speech I cried real tears, surprising myself, as I saw the writing go up on the wall.Rachael Vaughan, MA, MFThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13377850240374666279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-1367942063159384682008-09-12T04:12:00.000+02:002008-09-12T04:12:00.000+02:00Hmm.. a breast pump and a blackberry now define t...Hmm.. a breast pump and a blackberry now define the frontier woman's experience. How interesting. I was not aware that Palin's life has been anything but comfortable.. If you want to see what faces the modern frontier woman, I recommend a newly released movie called Frozen River. I find it amusing that people think soccer mom's are working class. Working class women are holding two jobs these days. Their children are latch key children, many of whom don't play sports because they don't have health insurance. There are plenty of women in the frontier that is Alaska who face real challenges.. Blackberries and breast pumps.. give me a break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-18421723521773523582008-09-12T03:31:00.000+02:002008-09-12T03:31:00.000+02:00Krugman seems to be puzzled as to why people think...Krugman seems to be puzzled as to why people think that Democrats look down on ordinary people, but I’m not sure it’s such a big mystery when you have otherwise nice liberal people putting down the Palins as Tobacco Road characters in parkas.<BR/><BR/> I’m no Clintonista, but one of Bill Clinton’s talents was being able to talk to people who ‘work hard and play by the rules,’ which was his phrase alluding to these white working people. Hillary appealed to this group, also. Obama doesn’t have the knack, not yet at any rate. Michelle Obama used to try to depict the two of them as just folks by talking about how long it took for them to pay off their student loans. But people who don’t necessarily aspire to go to college and become lawyers - but still want to make a decent living -- aren’t going to respond to that.<BR/><BR/>Race would be a factor in the campaign with any African-American running, but in Obama’s case the issue intersects with his lack of resume and his relative youth. I don’t think a Colin Powell figure would be vulnerable to the sex-ed commercial kind of attack. <BR/><BR/>anonymous, there are many different kinds of feminism. A few lefty feminists have a bad habit of assuming the role of gatekeepers: You’re not a feminist if we don’t say you are and we think your politics are Bad for Women. I think Palin is a feminist whether she describes herself as one or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-73200599508103748862008-09-11T22:03:00.000+02:002008-09-11T22:03:00.000+02:00I don't drink anyway. Maybe it's time to move to L...I don't drink anyway. Maybe it's time to move to Libya. Puerto Rico and the Republica Dominicana just don't seem far enough away from the US now, and the Cuba situation remains twisted.<BR/>I have to disagree with your outlook David, as much as I enjoy reading your opinions.<BR/>McCain-Palin is not a ticket to be impressed by, although I realize you are not exactly claiming that.<BR/>As I have stated before, and I think you have regularly, there isn't any economy left in the US to talk about after the events of this week particularly. If these zany political races are the circuses that the Empire offers the citizenry, and thus distracts them from armed bloodshed, which is the status I would expect any sane nation to be at by now, then I guess the whole construct is a rousing success for Democrats and Republicans both. My maternal grandmother was a tough lady, but not a professional and not a frontierswoman. My mother was a mother of seven, a professional and heavily involved in politics.<BR/>But I would not have voted for either one of them for VP of the US.<BR/>I guess the new game in national politics is "How low can they go?"<BR/>I came of age in the sixties {I am 56} and none of the political scene on the national level there ever made any sense to me.<BR/>Presently it defies a label because I feel it has moved well beyond the ridiculous and the absurd.<BR/>What I say and what I think are of no consequence in all of this of course. I don't live there, can't understand the mindset at all, never did, I can't vote, even as an absent citizen {Puerto Rico residents cannot vote for President of the US} and whereas I think that the McCain ticket is the worst of the evils, the majority will pick him or Obama by a slim margin on November 4 and that will be just another pothole on the road to redemption for the US. The country will go into its absolute worst 20 year period in the last 80 years very divided, very confused {is there any real message out there at all?} and very broke with enemies ready to take advantage of all of that.<BR/>Lincoln, if we are to believe our history books at all, was a rustic too. But that wasn't why he managed to save the union. The guy had smarts, as they say in the sticks. Does Palin?<BR/>Exactly what are the residency requirements for Libya, I have to look that up. Dubai has some serious inflationary concerns and I won't be going there. Maybe as a contrarian Bolivia or Zimbabwe might be nice. They only have problems in certain towns, generally the governments are not organized enough to cause trouble everywhere.<BR/>I get no sense whatsoever that the US power structure has any path or paths it is deciding to pursue. Facts show that it has robbed the taxpayer and the retiree-to-be blind in the last eighteen months, but somehow, no one seems to care.<BR/>When will the bomb of realization go off, and what will the fallout be like?<BR/>I'm not really expecting much from the US public. These are the same people that elected Bush twice {or about that much} and still think for the most part that Ronald Reagan was a great guy as well as being a stupendous President. He was better, far better than Bush Junior, I grant them that.<BR/>Maybe Myanmar is set for a comeback. I will look it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-38799113401490953942008-09-11T18:47:00.000+02:002008-09-11T18:47:00.000+02:00Paglia as provocateur; her stance on abortion, lik...Paglia as provocateur; her stance on abortion, like many issues, is inconsistent. She's interesting, always, but so angry and reactionary. I'm sorry, I'm not going to listen to a lesbian or a man argue the the cruel dilemma that is abortion. It's my body, my right, period the end.<BR/>If she were a man, she'd more clearly resemble the wingnut she is. <BR/>Really enjoy your writing and thoughtful approach, but Palin is exactly what we've earned and deserve, she illustrates the pathological strains that have killed the creativity of N. America; litigiousness, evangelicalism and victim hood like behavior. <BR/><BR/>Inevitable, imminent.<BR/><BR/>I understand Obama's limitations, they're so obvious...it's called schadenfreude, they shoulda chose Hillary...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-66965037929139805702008-09-11T08:11:00.000+02:002008-09-11T08:11:00.000+02:00Forensic,What you are saying really, is that if th...Forensic,<BR/>What you are saying really, is that if the Democrats hadn't led the civil rights movement back in the 60s, then today's Americans, black and white, would have health care.David Seaton's Newslinkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269813419598042699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-89866487656476623902008-09-11T07:59:00.000+02:002008-09-11T07:59:00.000+02:00You can only feel sorry for the Americans - a fund...You can only feel sorry for the Americans - a fundamentalist anti-abortion cavewoman masquerading as "feminist". How very sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-12046055393149791462008-09-11T02:25:00.000+02:002008-09-11T02:25:00.000+02:00David --You make some good points.My mother worked...David --<BR/><BR/>You make some good points.<BR/><BR/>My mother worked at a defense plant during WWII. She tells me she was an expediter, meaning she carried a clipboard and not a rivet gun. I recently read David Kennedy's history, who says that the posters didn't reflect reality - riveting jobs were higher skilled and higher paid and mainly kept to the men. My mother has voted Democratic for the last 50 years.<BR/><BR/>So why is the Democratic party no longer the party of the working class, men or women, like it was under Roosevelt? <BR/><BR/>As you said, Palin helps McCain with WHITE women. You can't discuss politics in America without discussing race - lower income whites voted democratic from the '30s until the '60s, when blacks were finally allowed to vote. The spin wasn't that whites were voting for racial supremacy, they were voting against the "elites". Now we are getting McCain's most recent ad saying a black man wants to teach sex to your kindergarteners. White women are now protecting their children against a black man (and to me, Hilary's 3AM phone call ad had the same message).<BR/><BR/>Krugman has a good column on the politics of resentment:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/opinion/05krugman.html?pagewanted=priAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com