tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post9065804922514148683..comments2023-10-30T19:03:59.225+01:00Comments on David Seaton's News Links: The Republican paternity suitDavid Seaton's Newslinkshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00269813419598042699noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-55546461088924372852008-05-19T21:29:00.000+02:002008-05-19T21:29:00.000+02:00Jackyt,Couldn't agree moreJackyt,<BR/>Couldn't agree moreDavid Seaton's Newslinkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269813419598042699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-71853665000729648972008-05-19T21:01:00.000+02:002008-05-19T21:01:00.000+02:00I think the reason the (seemingly) entire Old Boy ...I think the reason the (seemingly) entire Old Boy System has lined up behind Barack Obama is that Clinton is recognized as a champion of some of the causes you mention.<BR/><BR/>Hillary Clinton is widely (and wildly) castigated for FAILING to get UHC passed in 1994. She gets no credit for having tried. Her present plan, the more comprehensive of the two on offer, is dismissed as not substantially better than Obama's.<BR/><BR/>The campaign against her candidacy, both by Obama and the media is eerily reminiscent of the forces aligned against her in that earlier UHC battle. She was perceived as a threat to the status quo then, and (I believe) she's perceived as a threat to the status quo now.<BR/><BR/>It seems those Obama supporters who identify themselves as the "creative" class and pride themselves on their superior educational achievements are not so committed to "democratic (egalitarian) principles" as they are to maintaining the status quo.<BR/><BR/>So much for "Change We Can Believe In". The clothes have no emperor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-7362467103305523882008-05-19T12:16:00.000+02:002008-05-19T12:16:00.000+02:00Zo, Thanks for the compliment.My problem with Bara...Zo, <BR/>Thanks for the compliment.<BR/>My problem with Barack Obama is that my intuition tells me he is an empty suit. He is as proud, clever and as opportunistic as Lucifer, but I don't think there is really that much human content there. Sorry, but I just can't get by my feeling on this.<BR/><BR/>You say:<BR/><I>"he is going to increase our standing in the eyes of the rest of the world not only by virtue of the fact that he is articulate, charismatic and Black ... but because the old bullshitting bellicosity is so over."</I><BR/><BR/>Well the effect of his being <I>articulate, charismatic and Black</I> will not last very long if he doesn't face down AIPAC and the Israeli government <I>in his first year in office</I>. I don't think he will ever dare do that and as for <I>the old bullshitting bellicosity</I>, I agree with you that it more than stinks, but Karma is Karma... what is left of America's prosperity, the dollar and influence has come to depend on America's military presence all over the world. This is one of America's greatest tragedies.<BR/><BR/>Nobody is waiting for <I>moral lessons</I> from America. Things have practically unraveled already; they were unraveling before Bush, but he has accelerated the process by about twenty years. Without military credibility and endless shopping, the USA is going to see its "way of life" implode.<BR/><BR/>The secret is that America was almost as badly damaged by the cold war as the Soviet Union. Is Barack Obama to be the American Gorbachev?<BR/>Think very carefully before you answer that... remember that after Gorbachev comes Yeltsin and Putin.David Seaton's Newslinkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269813419598042699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-37314758672946098202008-05-19T10:38:00.000+02:002008-05-19T10:38:00.000+02:00Barack is going to do something ... he is going t...Barack is going to do something ... he is going to increase our standing in the eyes of the rest of the world not only by virtue of the fact that he is articulate, charismatic and Black ... but because the old bullshitting bellicosity is so over. As a paradigm, it stinks, as a practice, it more than stinks.<BR/><BR/>I like much of your thought, precisely because it is thought. But you mustn't fail to see past what Noonan called the Dems' busy-being-born phenomena, into the substance of what Obama has to offer. (Forget that annoying Clinton woman.) Such a simple idea: talk, not war.<BR/><BR/>Interesting times ahead.Zohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04699701648366387952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36646589.post-91285431685245333872008-05-19T03:19:00.000+02:002008-05-19T03:19:00.000+02:00Thanks for the manifesto. One of my kids is French...Thanks for the manifesto. One of my kids is French {dual citizenship with the US} and even though upper middle class, she enjoyed most of those benefits you describe over the last 30 years, for free, yes, free, or very close to it. She has the Sorbonne education and is in another ecology graduate program now at Sabatier in Toulouse. I don't expect Obama, McCain or Clinton {not even George Clinton} to deliver your wishlist.<BR/>Having been to the US only a few times since 1987, I found the citizenry to be remarkably complacent, my last visit was in July of 2006. Maybe the economic pain {my other kids in the US report back to me} that is ripping through the country right now will have some effect on the mobilization front. I'm removed from all of that by 1500 miles, and even though I as an anarchist won't sign up, in PR we do have nationalized medicine since 1995, however, it is a fact that "La Tarjeta" as it is called, did bankrupt Borinquen. Whatever it is we are going through here right now on the island, when that hits the US it better wake someone up, or they are just zombies. They won't have nationalized medicine to ease the pain either. Just repossessions.<BR/>Morris' Twainlike comment about the two Party contest and the dynamics is one that deserves wider dispersion, but I get the feeling it will vanish right away.<BR/>As to your proposing big government, we already have that without the benefits. Shrinking the military, as you suggest {trimming the fat, to be precise} is one thing we have to do. But it is possible to administer these health systems in a very efficient way especially using cybernetic advances, and we are already paying massive amounts for the education system at all levels either through local taxes or Federal subsidy and we are not getting any value.<BR/>The Australian Distance Learning concepts and other personnel reduction and Real Estate reduction economies should be made. Translation: move education on line.<BR/>These problems are solvable given the will. I know you think that way too.<BR/>But like you, and I give you credit for baptizing the concept, perhaps a little Leninization may have to be applied before the reactionary mobilization phase can take off. I think that is why you believe McCain should be in the Oval Office in 2009. He likes that free medical, he has it. I think he got the free education too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com